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estoy estudiando ingenieria tecnica de obras publicas y m interesaria, una vez acabada esta carrera, acer ambientales pero tengo varias dudas: solo se puede acceder desde las especialidades de hidrologia y la de transportes urbanos o tambien se puede acceder desde la especialidad de construcciones civiles o hay algun modo de acceder desde esta especialidad.
otra cosilla es si se entra directamente al 2º ciclo o si hay q cursar algunas asignaturas complementarias,
y por ultimo saber como va a afectar el plan bolonia a todo esto.
muchas gracias!!espero q me ayudeis a solucionar alguna de estas preguntas ^_^


 
Respondido : 13/07/2009 1:52 pm
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Hola "anónimo"

Como viene especificado en la Orden de 21 de septiembre del 95 sobre los requisitos de acceso a segundo ciclo de ciencias ambientales sólo pueden acceder los ITOP de dos especialidades: Hidrología ; Servicios y transportes urbanos
cursando además complementos de formación en ciencias.

Si eres ITOP en Construcciones civiles en principio no podrías acceder. Con el primer ciclo de ICCP sí tienes acceso, por lo que la única manera de acceder al segundo ciclo que se me ocurre para un ITOP en Construcciones es conseguir completar el primer ciclo de caminos.

Pienso que tendrás que valorar si te merece la pena hacer el segundo ciclo de la licenciatura ( complementos de formación + segundo ciclo) o hacerte el grado de cuatro años.

Supongo que con lo de Bolonia ya no existirán las pasarelas de carrera a carrera ( irá por convalidaciones), mientras que a un mismo master pueden acceder diferentes titulados ( en algunos casos cursando complementos).

Espero haberte aclarado algo 😉

PD: Hacer es con "h" , duele ver algo así en un universitario.


 
Respondido : 13/07/2009 6:01 pm
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Pasarelas de entrada al segundo ciclo - CienciasAmbientales.com

🙂


"El cambio climático constituye el mayor fracaso del mercado jamás visto en el mundo", Sir Nicholas Stern.

 
Respondido : 13/07/2009 7:41 pm
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y a la inversa =? xD


 
Respondido : 13/07/2009 7:46 pm
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ecocat;3389 wrote: y a la inversa =? xD

Qué malo eres...

Pasarelas de salida hacia el segundo ciclo de otras Titulaciones - CienciasAmbientales.com

:p


"El cambio climático constituye el mayor fracaso del mercado jamás visto en el mundo", Sir Nicholas Stern.

 
Respondido : 13/07/2009 7:51 pm
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quercus;3390 wrote: Qué malo eres...

Pasarelas de salida hacia el segundo ciclo de otras Titulaciones - CienciasAmbientales.com

:p

no me interesa ninguna y a las interesantes?¿

esto debería ser como los tratados entre paises, con reciprocidad

yo no soy malo, los malos son los otros que nos limitan nuestro posible desarrollo intelectual en base a ... a nada

saludos!


 
Respondido : 14/07/2009 1:03 am
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ecocat;3396 wrote: no me interesa ninguna y a las interesantes?¿

esto debería ser como los tratados entre paises, con reciprocidad

yo no soy malo, los malos son los otros que nos limitan nuestro posible desarrollo intelectual en base a ... a nada

saludos!

😮 Acaso insinúas que Estudios de Asia Oriental no es interesante?

Verás como entre aquí algún Estudiólogo de Asia Oriental... :p


"El cambio climático constituye el mayor fracaso del mercado jamás visto en el mundo", Sir Nicholas Stern.

 
Respondido : 14/07/2009 9:20 am
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Muchísimas gracias a todos, me habeis ayudado mucho ^_^
Una aclaración: Magno, ya sé que hacer lleva h pero era para abreviar =)
Gracias por vuestra ayuda!!


 
Respondido : 16/07/2009 11:34 pm
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Culum Brown, a University of Edinburgh researcher and editor of the book "Fish Cognition and Behavior," told Discovery News, the study "shows that fishes are using a mixture of their own knowledge and weighing it up against cultural information."
"In many ways," Brown said, "fish are just as smart as other animals."
While fish seem to exhibit frequent flashes of mental brilliance, the stickleback's hill-climbing strategy has yet to result in more human-like, high-tech capabilities, probably because fish habitats are so unstable.
"A massive constraint for the fish is that the environment can change rapidly, so information about a good foraging site can become redundant after a short time," Kendal said. "This resets the cumulative process and the fish have to start again acquiring new information."
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Respondido : 28/07/2009 8:46 am
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